Uplink Activity 12/11/08 7:00 PM ET 19 changes Young GONE

[tigerfan33]

Chuck gave in??

 

[kstuart]

Chuck gave in??

Just the opposite... look closely...

 

[DBS Commando]

Chuck gave in??

Or the other way around...usually Chuck holds on for much longer than 24 hours

 

[kstuart]

When all the individual channels on different tranpsonders are all mapped to the same transponder, that is because they are all getting the same slate that says: " We are sorry, but... " etc.

This is a duplicate of JohnH's post.

It seems that Digiblur's power returned - good for him!

 

[AriesGodofWar]

Great, can we get Voom back with all the free space? I hope you Voom haters lost your locals........doesn't feel so great does it?

 

[Mr Tony]

Great, can we get Voom back with all the free space?

what free space? They're all pretty much on spotbeam so there was no "space" gained..

if you have 8 channels on a spotbeam or 7 its still a spotbeam

I hope you Voom haters lost your locals........doesn't feel so great does it?

pretty asinine thing to say....plus unlike Voom these will come back
The local Networks want more money....Charlie says no so off they go. I had that happen to my local once but it was a BIGGER issue...It was part of Viacom so I lost my local (Minneapolis) CBS for a while..oh well....it came back

 

[Mr Tony]

merged both threads together

 

[kstuart]

I have to say that if I owned this site, all new posts with the word "Voom" would be deleted - just like the spam is.

 

[tigerfan33]

I have to say that if I owned this site, all new posts with the word "Voom" would be deleted - just like the spam is.

This means that you just deleted your own post.

 

[Randall DBS]

This makes the 2nd time that I can remember that KRON and WKRN have been removed over a dispute. This is getting ridiculous that there trying to squeeze Dish for more money again.

 

[Claude Greiner]

YAWN.... Give it a few days and the stations will be back on the air

 

[kstuart]

This means that you just deleted your own post.

It would be worth it !

 

[wkomorow]

Albany was in the middle of a major ice storm - channel 10 is probably the news leader in the area and probably has the most viewers for news events; it was in the middle of broadcasting the various states of emergencies and closing announcement and boom in the middle it disappeared. So much for acting in the public interest. I am writing advertisers of channel 10 to inform them they have lost tens of thousands of potential customers and viewers of tehir ads and that 10 should be offering the advertisers a discount. The only thing I watch on ABC is news programs. The thing about these is that you become used to turning in certain news shows. When they disappear, you find others and may stick with them. This could cost Young stations viewership for a long time even after the dispute is over. Stupid move on their part, even with their stock being cheaper than toilet paper 2-3 cents a share.

Technically the banner is wrong - Dish did not drop these stations, the stations pulled their consent to be retransmitted - semantics yes, but it is not the same thing. It was Young that pulled their stations from Dish.

 

[wkomorow]

YAWN.... Give it a few days and the stations will be back on the air

Wasn't the last dispute with Young an eight monther?

 

[jcrandall]

Jason Crandall:

Ahhh, those pictures are too big. Can you resize them to 800x600 Firefox? The first one is OK.

Are they not working? They're only 860x860 and the file is under 85k, so they are already small?

 

[mperdue]

I have to say that if I owned this site, all new posts with the word "Voom" would be deleted - just like the spam is.

If I owned this site all posts with kstuart in them would be deleted - so what's your point?

 

[riffjim4069]

Dish has the uplink cost, the sat cost and etc. Why should a station get $.30 for contributing nothing.

Except the costs associated with producing some of the most populars shows on television, along with local news, sports, etc. For the record, the ratings of the most popular cable shows cannot compare to those of the broadcasters (ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC)...yet, subscribers are paying far more and receiving far less (ratings wise) for channels like ESPN, USA, TNT, TBS, etc. Personally, I would be more concerned about ALL SUBSCRIBERS having to shell-out $2-$3 for the the ESPN channels, even those who do not watch sports. Does this make any sense?

If you take a closer look, just about all the "cable favorite" channels are running commercials, and several are broadcasting countless hours of informercials late-night and during the weekend morning hours. I can see these channels are giving me a lot of value for my 30 cents...like never being watched, and wasting bandwidth and space in my guide.

Also, the last time I looked, E* was a PAY TV service, and they are charging you a fee for your local programming. No? Nobody is forcing you to pay for your locals...spend a few dollars on a quality OTA setup and be done with the issue. It's funny that D* doesn't keep having these programming disputes, and I certainly don't have any of my locals yanked off of FiOS TV.

Until consumers are provided with substantive a la carte options, I am all for the broadcast networks getting whatever then can for the most popular programming from these PAY TV providers. To be honest, why are we paying anything for Cable or DBS service? Just about all the "Cable Favorites" are accepting advertising dollars and running commercials? Why don't they pay for carriage on the MSOs and, in turn, free programming can be provided to the customers? Personally, I like this programming/delivery model much better.

People spend $100+ monthly on their Cable/Satellite service, and complaint about spending $5 to watch their locals on a PAY TV service when, in fact, most of their TV viewing is spent watching the broadcast networks. Again, spend a few dollars on a quality OTA setup if you unhappy with this situation. Personally, I feel it is reasonable for the broadcasters to demand up to a $1 per subscriber to be carried on a PAY TV service.

Anyway, compare the television and cable ratings and judge for yourself. Personally, I would be a little more upset with paying big bucks to ESPN, USA and TBS for their far less popular programming and (sigh!) commercials.

Zap2it - Weekly TV ratings
Zap2it - Weekly Cable ratings

 

[fordpre]

Meh,

The little podunk town of Dayton OH had the same issue with the NBC affiliate and TimeWarner. Heck, they were running commercials (tv/radio/newspaper) and scrawls not telling people to call TW to complain, but to go to Dish.

Its just a game of money... like someone said before, the local station wants more money to do nothing.

 

[sethwell]

...spend a few dollars on a quality OTA setup and be done with the issue.

..spend a few dollars on a quality OTA setup and be done with the issue...

just because you have an OTA setup doesn't mean that you will receive a signal. what if you live to far from the towers? what if you live behind a large mountain? you could spend thousands getting the best OTA equipment and still not get a signal in some areas.

satelite service is some peoples only option.

 

[M Sparks]

I have to say that if I owned this site, all new posts with the word "Voom" would be deleted - just like the spam is.

The only thing more pathetic than the people still obsessed with Voom are the people who are obsessed with the people who are still obsessed with Voom.