MPEG 4 channels like ESPN2-HD, Big 10 HD look more like the MPEG-2 channels now, golf on Big 10 HD right now is embarrasing to watch you can see the trees flickering and macroblocking madness hell, tennis earlier you could see the girls face pixelating. Dish does really love to compress the hell out of HD, they are the leader! JESUS DO THEY EVEN GIVE A FLYING ***?????????????????