Since I am co-owner and admin of the site in question, please allow me to address the comments here and set the record straight...
I was scouring the various C-band and FTA boards using google, came across one where people were still thinking 4dtv was dead, so thought I would post a little something about it not being dead and that people here still have subscriptions and are using HITS.... well
I returned to check if any replies were there and I saw my message had been deleted and left with the word "RETARD" and I was banned from logging in. They won't even let this person know! I was only hoping to spread the word so we snag more subscribers and keep it alive.
Is this the norm for most FTA boards ? being hostile and jealous rather than letting people know the truth ?? I do think that site sold things, though by their name they sound more like they would promote a fridge, *extremely* unprofessional, childish administration.
You failed to mention that you were given a banned reason: You made 2 posts and dropped 5 or 6 links to other FTA sites. They were not live but per site rules, links to other FTA sites or dealers are prohibited, live or dead. "satelliteguys.us" and "skyvision.com" repeated several times are certainly dead links. The only links to other FTA sites we allow are over to Rick's Satellite. We cannot vouch for anyone else and therefore do not allow other FTA links period.
We normally only have to ban 2 types of people: outright spammers and pirates. The "retard" title instead of banned seems appropriate. Technically by coming to our forum and dropping so many links to other sites, even thought dead, puts you in the "spammer" category. You did not take the time to read our rules and policies.
You also posted in a thread dating back from when Motorola said they were discontinuing support for 4DTV. We have other threads and discussions talking about W5 and the conversion and options there. We link to Rick's for conversion info and refer people there that need details and technical assistance. We do appreciate you trying to set us backward folks straight though, since you quickly determined that we must not know anything based on the old thread you posted in.
Hmmm...
Sounds like you hit a nerve on that site. Must be the DishNet converts who are bitter about the revival of 4DTV. He hee...
We do what we can to encourage "big dish revival". Not just for 4DTV but for general FTA use. In "DishNet converts" you are referring to those who dropped their subs and went OTA/FTA, correct?
By any chance, did you happen to post a web link to here on that forum? Most forums on the Internet have a strict policy against posting links to other forums, especially ones dealing with the same topics as they are considered competition. Usually, this is explained in the site rules when joined.
Please note that this is just my personal observation and I'm not affiliated with any forum.
Yes, this is what happened as explained in my first response. The reason is not just because of competition, it is because of the number of shady dealers and sites out there. We do not want live or dead links to anyone we do not know and cannot endorse as legit.
Calling people names like retard is very unprofessional.
Selling shareware is unprofessional and unethical but that is what the fridge site owner does.
There used to be a pirate site that would ban people and call them retard or other names and this is probably where this guy came from.
There have been numerous threads started at the fridge site comparing cheap products with other cheap products. It reminds me of trying to polish a turd to make it look better than another one.
These cheap product threads clearly show the lack of experience and knowledge in the site owner. It is obvious the guy does not know what he is doing when it comes to testing products. In one thread I saw, he claims a piece of Styrofoam is installed in a particular lnb to absorb microwaves and he expects you to believe this nonsense.
It is of little wonder that the products he sells come out on top in these little tests. The other inferior products are all referred to as clones...lol.
IMO, he did you a favor by banning you. That site does not represent most of other fta sites as a whole. GregH
We do not sell shareware or other software. If we sold our private file for a certain receiver we would be rich from the number of people contacting us to buy it. Not for sale. Not pirate either, just an improved, easy to use version for real FTA that fixes some of the things the factory lacks, and addresses some of the complaints about the factory firmware.
As mentioned before "retard" is the "banned" term at our place. Since we normally ban only spammers and pirates it seems appropriate.
The "styrofoam" you referred to was installed in both brand LNBFs. If it is just foam then I guess China, a country known for efficiency and cutting corners whenever possible just puts a piece inside each LNB for charity. No reason or function at all, right? BTW, the "other guy" came out quite well in the last product testing, and I was happy to say so and point out that products strengths. His product did quite well. I also backed everything up with real testing, pictures and documentation.
Not that I want to defend the Fridge site...
...I think I visited their web page once.
It was obviously a hacker haven, and I didn't need any such equipment so I left.
But, joining a forum, and posting a link in your first comment...
... that'll get 'em mad at you most anywhere.
Especially if it links to a competing product or site.
Why? Well, that's what spammers do.
I moderate a much smaller site than this one, and see 2 - 150 spam posts a day.
The average may be more like 25, though.
99% are so far off-topic there's no question.
But for any post that IS on-topic, the OP was treated very rudely.
Hacker haven? Strange, since we work with all 3 platform providers in the USA and several CAS providers. Our store never ever sold "dongles" IKS, Viewsat, Sonicview or any of the other pirate stuff. I personally have flipped out on pirate inquiries many times. I would post links to some of our anti-piracy stuff but to go to another forum and drop links is rude. Yes, we do encourage a guy with a SV, VS or PS to use it for what it should be used for: real fta, and I know that rubs some guys raw.
Anyway OP, if you felt you were treated unfairly you should have contacted the admins of the site, and when posting here you should have disclosed your ban reason was for violating the rules for live or dead links to other sites. Other than eliminating your references to other sites your posts were left intact. You were banned because of the number of "drops" you gave in your first two posts. We appreciate if you were legitimately trying to provide W5 info but you came out dropping references multiple times to other sites. Why not just share what you know? And as mentioned before you dragged up a long ago aged thread and apparently missed the ones with conversion info for the 4DTV guys.
j/k.
