Why aren't CNN and HLN located along with the other news channels?

[edisonprime]

That confuses me. The rest all are next to each other.

 

[jcrandall]

They (Turner) negotiated channel placement a long time ago as part of their carriage agreement and have either kept it as part of the agreement or DirecTV has not decided to move them.

It is fairly common for some media companies to request channel placement.

The location makes sense, back before locals were carried in most markets there was some PPV in the 100s and then CNN/HLN were the first "cable" channels starting the 200s.

 

[Mr Tony]

CNN and HLN have been at those spots since 1997 (also ESPN has been at 206 since that time too)
http://web.archive.org/web/19970704185624/http://www.directv.com/programming/listing.html

 

[Jimbo]

Yup, it all goes by where they were placed originally when negotiations were done, I'm sure part of that negotiating was being able to KEEP them where they are thruout as long as the money continues to come in.

 

[markfp-1]

Most people are creatures of habit and would complain up a storm those channels (or any of their favorites for that matter) got changed. Maybe not on these boards, but the public in general. It's like when a store moves things around. They may have a logical reason, but watch out for the complaints.

 

[KraziJoe]

Most people are creatures of habit and would complain up a storm those channels (or any of their favorites for that matter) got changed. Maybe not on these boards, but the public in general. It's like when a store moves things around. They may have a logical reason, but watch out for the complaints.

I have no idea where ESPN, TNT or NESN are, all I do is add them to favorites, push the up button and pick the station I want.

 

[BlueLemon]

I've wondered that myself, but also wouldn't care if it changed. So long as I continue to receive the channel.

 

[Jimbo]

I have no idea where ESPN, TNT or NESN are, all I do is add them to favorites, push the up button and pick the station I want.

off the top of my head, 206, 245 and not sure as it's not in my area, 6 something, maybe in the 620's.

 

[Mr Tony]

628

 

[Broe67]

It works the same way as soda, beer, wine & liquors are shelved at the grocery store. Personally I wished that they would take all of the shopping channels and put them in the 8000's or 9000's. That way you never see them. Same as taking the PPV, OnDemand channels in the 100's and just use an app like they do for the other OnDemand Premium channels.

It would make the guide a whole lot cleaner.

 

[ejb1980]

It works the same way as soda, beer, wine & liquors are shelved at the grocery store. Personally I wished that they would take all of the shopping channels and put them in the 8000's or 9000's. That way you never see them. Same as taking the PPV, OnDemand channels in the 100's and just use an app like they do for the other OnDemand Premium channels.

It would make the guide a whole lot cleaner.

At least we have favorites lists to get rid of the clutter. My parents cable guide doesn't have that option so they have to look at everything all the time - and their channels are completely random.

 

[Jimbo]

It works the same way as soda, beer, wine & liquors are shelved at the grocery store. Personally I wished that they would take all of the shopping channels and put them in the 8000's or 9000's. That way you never see them. Same as taking the PPV, OnDemand channels in the 100's and just use an app like they do for the other OnDemand Premium channels.

It would make the guide a whole lot cleaner.

The grocery store is ridiculous, I drink Sprite, I get 2 liter bottles usually.
Where are the 2 liter bottles on the rack ?
Very top row. Great place for a heavy item, also when your not tall, the top is very difficult to deal with... WHY they can't stripe them down ward in the section I don't know. the store tells me that its a vendor choice.

 

[DetFan]

That confuses me. The rest all are next to each other.

Because they are not news channels.


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[Broe67]

The grocery store is ridiculous, I drink Sprite, I get 2 liter bottles usually.
Where are the 2 liter bottles on the rack ?
Very top row. Great place for a heavy item, also when your not tall, the top is very difficult to deal with... WHY they can't stripe them down ward in the section I don't know. the store tells me that its a vendor choice.

Tell me about it. When I went to get my wife's supplements, because she had Bariatric surgery a few years back. The stuff is always on the top shelf that she takes.

 

[Mr Tony]

The grocery store is ridiculous, I drink Sprite, I get 2 liter bottles usually.
Where are the 2 liter bottles on the rack ?
Very top row. Great place for a heavy item, also when your not tall, the top is very difficult to deal with... WHY they can't stripe them down ward in the section I don't know. the store tells me that its a vendor choice.

at most grocery stores here in MN/WI the 12 packs are below that and the cases below them. Setup is as such

2 liter
those weird 8 packs of like 10 ounce bottles
12 pack
24 pack

 

[jcrandall]

Likely the store likes it that way too - all about margin. 2 liters and 24 pk have the lowest margin, thus top and bottom.

 

[Jimbo]

Likely the store likes it that way too - all about margin. 2 liters and 24 pk have the lowest margin, thus top and bottom.

That doesn't sound right .... a 2 liter bottle is anywhere between 1.69 and 1.89, the profit margin for a 2 liter bottle has to be HUGE.
I would guess that 2 liter bottle of pop/soda cost about .20 cents.

 

[ejb1980]

That doesn't sound right .... a 2 liter bottle is anywhere between 1.69 and 1.89, the profit margin for a 2 liter bottle has to be HUGE.
I would guess that 2 liter bottle of pop/soda cost about .20 cents.

Jimbo is right. There is a lot of packaging on 24 packs (box, 24 cans, rings if they're in 6 packs) but a 2 liter is basically nothing more than a thin plastic bottle.

 

[jcrandall]

I would guess that 2 liter bottle of pop/soda cost about .20 cents.

You'd be surprised, but that is far from what the retailer pays. That may be what it cost Coke/Pepsi before delivery/marketing/etc, but is far less than what they sell it for wholesale.

Typical retailer cost is at or over $1 for a 2 liter. In fact, 20 oz bottles for single serve sale are nearly $1 cost. The mfg charges more for those as single sell units vs what they sell them to the retailer for in an 8 pack, for example, but it is against agreements to break open the multipack, instead a retailer must buy the single serve bottles.

2 liter on top, little margin, figure retailer pays $1 sells for below $2.
Unique sizes, like 8pk 20oz, 6pk cans, etc, which have the highest margin, in the middle.
Then 12 packs, slightly better margins that the 24 pack, but less than the unique sizes. Typically sells $4 or $5 regular price, typical cost $3.

Bottom the 24 packs, typically sell $1 or so below double the 12 packs, and the cost is slightly below double the 12 packs. Margin essentially the same or slightly lower than the 12 pk.

I promise you, bottled soda cost a retailer far over what it would cost to manufacture, or what it cost to dispense through fountain machines.

 

[Jimbo]

You'd be surprised, but that is far from what the retailer pays. That may be what it cost Coke/Pepsi before delivery/marketing/etc, but is far less than what they sell it for wholesale.

Typical retailer cost is at or over $1 for a 2 liter. In fact, 20 oz bottles for single serve sale are nearly $1 cost. The mfg charges more for those as single sell units vs what they sell them to the retailer for in an 8 pack, for example, but it is against agreements to break open the multipack, instead a retailer must buy the single serve bottles.

2 liter on top, little margin, figure retailer pays $1 sells for below $2.
Unique sizes, like 8pk 20oz, 6pk cans, etc, which have the highest margin, in the middle.
Then 12 packs, slightly better margins that the 24 pack, but less than the unique sizes. Typically sells $4 or $5 regular price, typical cost $3.

Bottom the 24 packs, typically sell $1 or so below double the 12 packs, and the cost is slightly below double the 12 packs. Margin essentially the same or slightly lower than the 12 pk.

I promise you, bottled soda cost a retailer far over what it would cost to manufacture, or what it cost to dispense through fountain machines.

Not sure I agree with your 2 liter statement, not that long ago I use to buy them for 99c, then 1.29, they can't be losing money every time I buy one.
The local stores either have them for 1.69 or 1.89, the gas stations have them 3 for $4 or 4 for $5.

I gotta think the Krogers or your local supermarket gets them for well under a dollar.

On a side note, we have gone WAY off the thread topic !